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March 22, 2018 at 3:30 pm #422766

Keren Smith
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Small detail, but when you change the custom post type name from ‘Places’ to something else, it changes the menu name, but leaves the categories and tags as ‘Place Categories’ and ‘Place Tags’.

March 23, 2018 at 12:25 am #422812

Guust
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Post count: 29970

Thanks for that bug report 🙂

March 23, 2018 at 2:40 pm #422972

Alex Rollin
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For V2, we are testing on core now, and the addons will come as soon as core is stable.
In V1, if you change the singular name, just below it, that should change it for categories and tags.

March 23, 2018 at 6:51 pm #423033

Stiofan O’Connor
Site Admin

Post count: 22956

Thanks for reporting, I have fixed this and it will be in the next release.

Thanks,

Stiofan

March 25, 2018 at 9:12 am #423202

Keren Smith
Expired Member

Post count: 7

To add to this, if you go to add a listing in the admin, it initially says ‘No place found’, and when you click on Add New, up the top it says ‘Add new place’.

March 25, 2018 at 11:34 am #423211

Guust
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Have a look at Appearance > Menus > and change the navigation label.
I guess that is added before the CPT name change so it will not change by itself.
If you ave a look in the “GeoDirectory Endpoints, you should see an Add CPT link with the correct name.
Thanks

March 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm #423388

Keren Smith
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I don’t mean in a site top menu. See attached.

March 26, 2018 at 6:53 pm #423479

Stiofan O’Connor
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If you go to the edit CPT settings and Click “Show advanced” you will see the extra strings there, this is for greater control.

Thanks,

Stiofan

March 26, 2018 at 7:31 pm #423496

Dirk
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Post count: 390

Stiofan,

I’m not sure if these “Show advanced” is a good idea as you can see that a lot of people missing what they are looking for. To have a switch for “developers” is not a good solution for me.

Thanks,
Dirk

March 26, 2018 at 11:00 pm #423515

Guust
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Maybe “More Settings” then, instead of “Show advanced”?

March 27, 2018 at 7:16 am #423577

Dirk
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Why hiding something from the user?

March 27, 2018 at 8:56 am #423592

Stiofan O’Connor
Site Admin

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Its for better UI/UX, most of these settings will never be changed and just confuse users, some settings users don’t even understand what they do, and by asking them to make a decision they don’t understand that is bad UX. Users like yourself who understand most things can disable this feature, i actually prefer browsing the settings the way they are, i ran it with this feature disabled but i ended up enabling it again because it was much cleaner and easier to find the settings i need.

https://wordpress.org/about/philosophy/

Every time you give a user an option, you are asking them to make a decision. When a user doesn’t care or understand the option this ultimately leads to frustration.

Stiofan

March 27, 2018 at 9:33 am #423597

Dirk
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Now you are talking about UI/UX. There are different approaches for a good UX and this is very individual. If you look at software enterprises, and they spend a lot of money in UX, you don’t see very often these “show advanced options/settings”. Look at Windows, Office Suite, MacOS, Adobe Suite etc.
Also your quote above is just one opinon about UI/UX and I have a different one. You are hiding information/settings to the user and this is (for me) that you are patronizing the user.

It is up to you to decide, but I don’t like the approach.

Best,
Dirk

March 27, 2018 at 10:01 am #423602

Stiofan O’Connor
Site Admin

Post count: 22956

For sure we can’t please everyone 🙂
We are trying to take the approach of WordPress (which are quite successful), if we did it the 100% WP way then these advanced settings would just not exist, but we understand people will want to change things and customise things so instead of only providing hooks and filters where only a small % of people will be able to use these, we provide advanced settings for these.

Literally ever single company/product you mentions above is full of “advanced settings”
For some products/items they might all be condensed into the one screen and admittedly Apple mostly just don’t give you advanced options for pretty much the exact reason as WP.

It also might surprise you to know there are hidden settings screens in WP, you have probably never seen them and don’t even know they exist, there are no links to it inside WP, is that more patronizing than actually giving users the option to view and change them?

As i said we can’t please everyone 🙂

March 27, 2018 at 10:30 am #423608

Keren Smith
Expired Member

Post count: 7

I don’t care what it’s named (advance options is simple enough), I just missed the button completely because it’s on the right hand side of my screen and I use a large screen at work! I think most other buttons I’ve seen like this on other plugins are below the block of information. That would work better IMO, but up to you obviously.
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