Location Manager

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  • #440169

    Dirk
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    What do you mean?

    If I’m setting it to “default” GD permalinks I can click as often as I can on the place in a listing, but the detailed page is not opening.

    If I switch to “Full location” I can open the place detail page, BUT now one “/” is missing in the link behind the “/place” so I’m getting an error.

    Also the plugin is not respecting the location home URL and always try to send me to a location oriented page instead of “/”. I have no location switcher on and it looks like that the URL generation tries to do something of a preselected location.

    Plugin has been tested for over 5 weeks, few bugs are to be expected.

    I was just wondering as all people starting to test the LMv2 are running in the same problems directly after installing the plugin.

    #440174

    Paolo
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    For sure it hasn’t been tested as thoroughly as we through we did.

    We’ll make sure to make amend in next beta release.

    Thanks

    #440201

    Tom Eranary
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    Same issue here: GeoDirectory permalink error the following rule appears twice: ^places/([^/]*)/? Try making the GeoDirectory permalinks more unique.

    Fresh install with Core Version 2.0.0.18 and and LM Version 2.0.0.2-beta.

    Issue occurs as soon as I activate the LM plugin.

    I did have custom permalinks, but I reverted back to the default once. Did not fix the issue.

    looking forward to the update.

    #440211

    Andersen
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    Its a fresh V2 install Paolo. Same issues as the other.

    #440350

    Stiofan O’Connor
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    For the “^places/([^/]*)/?” permalinks issue, this is because the default permalinks is matching the country one:
    /places/united-states/
    /places/eiffel-tower/

    It does not know if it should be looking for a place or a country, i have been testing with lots of different combinations of permalinks but rarely the default place ones. All you have to do to get around this to test is to change the place permalinks to not be standard.

    In the long run there are 3 ways we can solve this:
    1. Not allow just the place names if you also want to use the country slugs.
    2. Add an extra prefix to place location urls like:
    from: /places/united-states/
    to: /places/location/united-states/
    (maybe only when this permalink type is setup)
    3. We could add a filter to run some queries before the main query to tell it what type to run. (this is my least favorite option, though it would allow both to be used it is the least efficient way to do things)

    Feedback welcome.

    Thanks,

    Stiofan

    #440354

    Stiofan O’Connor
    Site Admin
    Post count: 22956

    @marc Please start your own topics for different issues, your issue was a JS error due to a jQuery conflict, i have fixed it on ur site and added a fix in LMv2 which will be in the next release.

    Thanks,

    Stiofan

    #440360

    Marc
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    Post count: 274

    Hi Stiofan

    I would prefer a solution that is best for SEO / google.
    Most important for SEO in a directory are the category and location pages (and the combination of them). I don’t know if solution 1. or 2. is better for that. (don’t like 3.)

    Can you tell me what permalink structure is best for SEO?

    I prefer default like this: http://xyz.com/places/sample-place/
    with these settings:
    – Enable default country (yes)
    – Hide country part of url for LISTING, CPT and LOCATION pages (Yes)

    Thanks, Marc

    #440361

    Andersen
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    I defently agree with Marc, SEO is utmost important for directories, but how its solved best, i can’t tell.

    #440420

    Dirk
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    Post count: 390

    What does in the long run here means?

    I need two options at two different sites:
    1) Default: /[CPT-slug]/[place-name/slug]
    2) Full location: /[CPT-slug]/[country slug]/[region slug]/[city slug]/[place slug]
    I’m not using neighbourhoods.

    In case of SEO I see an advantage with solution one because if readability of the urls at the SRPs.

    For the test I’m getting 404 switching to “Full location”:
    1) Go to places
    2) Go to any detailed place page
    3) Click on Places again
    –> 404 with a wrong created link

    Dirk

    #440630

    Paolo
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    My 10 years of experience working in the SEO field, if using the Location Manager, would make me ONLY use this option:

    Full location with category -> site.com/places/united-states/pennsylvania/philadelphia/attractions/sample-place/

    That is by far the best option for Google as you are giving it a hierarchical structure that will allow it to easily crawl all parts of your URL.

    site.com/places/united-states/pennsylvania/philadelphia/attractions/
    site.com/places/united-states/pennsylvania/philadelphia/
    site.com/places/united-states/pennsylvania/
    site.com/places/united-states/
    site.com/places/

    If your directory covers only 1 country, you can hide that from the URL.

    Omitting the location in the URL IMHO would be counterproductive for local SEO.

    Just my 2 cents, I’m sure someone will disagree, however I’m not going to try and convince anyone. SEO is not a science, only thorough testing can give you good answers and I’ve been testing GD permalinks structures since 2014.

    Cheers,

    #440638

    Marc
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    Thanks Paolo for you input!
    Marc

    #440639

    Dirk
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    This is worth to read from ahrefs.com

    https://ahrefs.com/blog/on-page-seo/

    There is a chapter about URL length and folders. The outcome of their analysis is:
    Longer URLs and more “folders” is effecting your google ranking negativ.

    @paulo: I also have the Full location with category now on my page, but this is not practical for the search as this is not shown on the SRPs. Also I’m not submitting the location pages or archive pages for crawling.
    Yes, it is easy to crawl these long URLs (by submitting a sitemap), but for me SEO is not the ease of crawling it is all about ranking.
    The folders are not recognized as keywords, only the content is recognized. So if you search for a city or a region this has to be in the content.

    SEO is magic and I don’t see a clear answer. Google is changing the rules very often.

    Dirk

    #440645

    Paolo
    Site Admin
    Post count: 31206

    Rankings are all about content, backlinks and now dwell time is becoming more and more important.

    The site structure is more about being easily crawled and indexed, but also for UX.

    If hierarchy is not logical, user may get easily confused. (I have a good article to link too https://neilpatel.com/blog/site-structure-enhance-seo/)

    You can have the best short URL of all, but if the content is not very good, you have few backlinks and a high bouncing rate, Google will not rank you in top positions.

    While if you have long URLs, but also the best content, a lot of backlinks and users stay on your pages for longer than average, you will be ranked high.

    The problem is that if you have a messy URL structure, a lot of your pages may not even get crawled, if you don’t have a sitemap.

    Also please read what they recommend on that ahrefs article below the URL Lenght chapter:

    Recommendation

    Even though we did see a small correlation here with preference towards shorter URLs, I don’t believe this is a significant enough ranking factor.

    I do recommend you to keep your URLs short, but mostly for user experience reasons and not because this will help you rank higher.

    Even for UX, I think it is clearer this:

    site.com/places/united-states/california/san-francisco/restaurants/gusteau/

    rather than this:

    site.com/places/gusteau/

    On the 1st case from the URL you’ll know that we are talking about a restaurant in San Fran.

    The second doesn’t tell as much.

    Thanks

    #440646

    Dirk
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    My last pennies to this topic and Paulo, we are on the same page!

    The recommendation is to keep it short. Adding folders is not making it short and all the folders, in case of UX, are not even shown to the user on the SRPs. So the relevance for UX is limited (see attachment). This is not what I would call a human readable URL.

    At the end in kind of SEO/URLs this is depending on the project you are implementing. There are valid use cases for a “full location” URL based directory, but also valid use cases to NOT have any location information in the URL.

    So, be as flexible as possible to cover customer requirements. Just supporting full locations is a unnecessary limitation.

    #440663

    justmark
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    Currently my directory at Motorsport Prospects only uses the category and listing name (https://www.motorsportprospects.com/teams/crosslink-kiwi-motorsport/). For what I need that is fine. This was very easy to accomplish with V1. Do I have the option to do this with V2?

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