Pay Per Lead (teaser)

paolo

The message is no longer obfuscated, only the contact info (we detect if there is a phone number or email address on the message body too)

morg

paolo Nice I think that's exactly how it should be

opadalton

Is it known yet when the Beta will be available? Can't wait to test it.

stiofan

Hopefully today, if everything goes to plan.

opadalton

That sounds good.

opadalton

Just noticed the plugin is live now and downloaded it. It does what is has to do: show a lead, all info is available and the info of the sender is blocked. Once paid an email, SMS and call button can be clicked (nice feature) and the sender can be contacted. Works like a charm. Also tested with the GD Wallet, works just fine.

My comments would be that:

as an option the sender has to pay (which in many businesses would make sense)
as a second comment I would say that instead of showing the form which may not always be desirable a button should be shown which once clicked opens the form. That keeps the design of any website more compacted, especially on mobile websites.

No bugs found yet. In my opinion a very nice and easy to use plugin.

stiofan

opadalton Yes, the retro adding of licenses takes about 30 hours, so its in the process of adding it to everyone's accounts just now...

Can you give some example use cases?
This is already possible with the display type option.

opadalton

Hello Stiofan,

On the uses cases:

I run a platform with personal ads, and making people pay who reply to ads keeps out all not-serious replies. That way this addon can function like a paywall. I think there are many platforms where a paywall is extremely important. For example when someone has somthing to sell to the highest bidder. If it costs money to place a bid only serious bids come in, plus you make some money on it.

On '2': I overlooked that...

paolo

opadalton I think the membership plugin to allow only members to reply makes more sense in a similar case... I would not want to add a similar feature to the Pay Per Lead TBH... It's out of scope.

bernardhaasbroek

opadalton You can also try to configure this scenario through NinjaForms. I believe there it is possible to make users pay to submit a form. I have not done it myself but I think it should do close to what you are asking for.

bernardhaasbroek

Loving it <3

I've tested the basic mechanics of it and it seems to work as intended. There are a few semantic changes but these are not essential. It will just make the plugin more apt. Should I list these suggestions here? Or in a support email?

A few bigger improvements/ requirements that I feel need to be addressed:

1) Do the person who submits the form get any emails or confirmation of what's going on? There is a little success message that comes up upon form submission, but I feel it may be necessary to send them an admin configurable confirmation email as well. This will also allow the site admin to explain to the form submitter what they can expect next - i.e. "Your contact details will be made available to the advertiser upon them paying us a pre-arranged fee. If you do not hear from the advertiser directly within 3 days, you may assume that your contact request was unsuccessful,.. etc. etc." A similar configurable email could also be sent to the form submitter when his lead gets "Rejected" to inform them that they should not hold on or anticipate to receive a reply to their request.

2) It was mentioned in the above discussions, and I do feel it is a key component that there is some kind of cut-off date for the advertiser to buy the lead, after which the lead will "expire". I suggest another admin field for the number of days/hours upon which the lead will automatically revert to "rejected" status. Another configurable email to the advertiser to let them know that his lead is about to expire would be handy - (sense of urgency). It may be necessary to condense this into a digest of all the leads that are scheduled to expire within X days/hours instead of multiple individual emails in case it is a very busy site generating dozens of leads per user per day.

3) It appears to me that the PPL settings are sitewide. I am just thinking it may be better to make the settings per CPT in case the site owner will have different revenue structures. I actually intend to link mine to CPT Packages, which I can do with the conditional display settings, but I can't change the charging structure per Package (or CPT) as currently they appear to be controlled sitewide.

Otherwise there are some niggly bits but overall it looks really good. Thank you.

bernardhaasbroek

Perhaps it would be easier to make this form also work with NinjaForms, like the Claim Listing and Contact forms of GeoDirectory. That way, the site owner can style the form and initial emails exactly the way they like it.

paolo

bernardhaasbroek Those forms are built to send emails... the work needed to change their behavior is not as easy...

opadalton

bernardhaasbroek I know Ninja Forms can do that, and the same goes for Paytium or a Zapier connection, but if this plugin already can make a receiver pay for leads received it would be nice to have a GD dedicated plugin like this to make the sender pay. But if I understand correctly from Paolo it will not be included.

stiofan

Yeah, lets get the discussion going here, thats what its for 🙂

currently, there are no email and no plans, but if people think its needed then we can add it.
I like the idea, if people want it and after current features are stable then its something we can look at.
There are actually 3 levels of settings, Site wide, CPT, and Price Packages, so exactly what u want is there already 🙂
Rather than incorporating other forms (Ninja) we can add feature to our own form...

Please point out any "niggly bits" and we will fix them.

bernardhaasbroek

stiofan On point 3 - Sorry I didn't even see it until now. I just follow the instructions and it was not mentioned there that you have this level of control. Marvellous job.

Is there some kind of hierarchy? i.e. Site wide overrides CPT, overrides Package? It seems changing it in one place is making changes in other places too.

I will come back here with the smaller "niggly bits" in a later post. Thank you.

bernardhaasbroek

1) Like this post if you agree: Can we have a straw poll how many people would like to expand this plugin's functionality with emails sent to the user who submitted the lead form - particularly when the lead is marked as "rejected" to let them know that their enquiry was unsuccessful.

bernardhaasbroek

2) Like this post if you agree: Can we have a straw poll of how many people would like to expand this plugins functionality by having the lead automatically move to "rejected" after a certain amount of time to be configured by the site admin. With a potential further add-on to send an email to advertisers to warn them that their lead(s) are about to expire.

morg

I like the idea of something email confirmation and notifications to the submitter and the business owner. I kinda feel like this might be what the "dynamic email plugin" is for. No? Even the optional automatic 3 days no answer = automatically rejected seems like a dynamic email plugin thing.

morg

There's an option in the PPL block settings called "Lightbox (open with another link). Does this allow us to turn text into links that open up the lightbox? if so, I'm a little confused on how I can do this. There's no block called "GD > Button" nor "GD > Nav item" and what are we supposed to do with our "#contact-form"?

stiofan

morg the for has been ported from our BlockStrap plugin so i guess those texts need fixing. You can open it any link like this <a href="#contact-form" data-bs-toggle="modal">Open Form</a>
Just set the "#contact-form" to the is of the form.

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