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Stiofan O’Connor 4 years, 6 months ago.
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Open Support TicketHi Scott,
Yes, i though you meant something much more complex…
Usually we recommend breaking up listing into CPT for different industries so you can have specific filters for that industry. In this case you are targeting a wide array of industries on the one CPT. I must ask though, is for the example you used a sub category not a better option? This can be setup so if viewing the “candels” cat it will show only the sub cat options on that page to allow further filtering without even using search.
Attaching filters to cats is something that i don’t ever remember being asked for.
Thanks,
Stiofan
Hi Stiofan
Subcategories is probably a good idea and something we should look into but it unfortunately will not solve our issue. For example the category “Candles” as i mentioned, this is the only category where will have the filter Soy and we will be having many other filters only associated with 1 category.
I appreciate this will not be added into the next release 2.0.0.67 but we really need this added 2.0.0.68.
Kind Regards
Scott
Hi Scott,
That is kinda my point, if the thing you are looking to filter is a direct filter only to that parent category then this is really a sub category, if its something that is not directly related to the parent cat but to multiple cats then that is filter territory.
Not every user filters by category in a directory, in this case all filters would show, which could get mighty confusing if you intend to add many filters as stated.
If “Soy” is only related to “candles” i would make it sub cat.
Things that relate to your main CPT “shopping” would be filters because it is not affected by the category, so “accepts bitcoin” might be a filter.
Stiofan
Hi Stefan
Sorry but is is not an option, it will get very messy, we have around 85 categories, and having these as sub categories is not an option. We used two different directory components in the past, and both you were able to assign specific custom fields per category. The first one was through Joomla, and we moved to WordPress for obvious reasons, our live website we are using ListingPro and we moved to yours for performance. I am thinking long term and as i mentioned we have 11 filters now, moving to 20 plus soon, and i can see this going to 50 plus. Some listings will have the same filters but these are not related in any way to the main category or even sub category. We really need to be able to select these like in the screenshot i sent you.
Kind Regards
Scott
Hi Scott,
I am still not convinced this is the best way to do things but i am happy to discuss it.
If you have 50 filters and no category selected then that could be very confusing to a user as it will show all 50 filters. Using CPTs for specific Industries will let your user pick between industries and then the filters will change per CPT, maybe thats better suited here?
If you can give a few examples of more filters you will be using it might help me advise you better.
Thanks,
Stiofan
If you have 50 filters and no category selected then that could be very confusing to a user as it will show all 50 filters –
All filters will have a least 1 category selected, some filters will have multiple categories selected, and some of these categories may not even be related to an industry. Using CPTs for specific Industries will not work in this case, I don not see any other option as to the one I have given you, and as I mentioned this is being done on other directories so I am a little confused as to the push back on this.
Hi
Can you please confirm this fix is going to be released in the next version ?
Kind Regards
Scott
Hi Scott,
This is how a CPT works, you can have different filters per CPT.
To my knowledge not many other directories let you create CPTs, so its a very similar way to do things but with CPT instead of categories.
I’m not 100% against the idea but its not a feature that has been requested any time recently. I would need more convincing to make it a top priority.
Thanks,
Stiofan
Hi Stiofan
This may be how your directory works, but creating 88 CPT’s ( as we have 88 categories ) is pretty insane and makes no sense and am pretty surprised you are giving this as a suggestion. This means I would have to create individual fields for each category, the time it would take to do this is well….. !!! As i already mentioned this is a very common feature and was in both Directories I used before. The first one was Joomla, ( moved for obvious reasons ) the last one was with WordPress, this had fantastic features but had serious potential performance issues if you scaled up. I am pretty sure if i looked at other top directory plugins in wordpress many other would have this what i believe is a really basic feature and i am gobsmacked i have to “convince” you to introduce it. How does showing ALL filters to ALL categories make any sense ? Please let me know either way if you are going to do this, as I will need to look elsewhere if you cannot do this.
Cheers
Scott
Scott,
We took a look a long time ago about the best way to organise things to be able to both filter and scale and the way i am suggesting is what i believe is best, what you are suggesting i don’t think will work well, and is that not why you came to GD?
I can see from your cat list it can be organsied into many Industries with those then having categories that would be more relevant to specific fields.
What i am suggesting is
Industry
– Category
— Sub Categories
That would not take 80 CPTs going by your cat list it would take only a few CPTs.
There are many many reasons i am telling you this is the right way to do things but i don’t seem to be able to convince you, i am happy to explain the tecnicallites and reasons we do it the way we do. Most others you mention that do it the way you want don’t have the option for different CPTs and don’t scale…
We are always happy to listen to suggestions and if they will work for everyone then we will implement them, maybe i am not explaining it well enough but the way you want it to work is not the best way technically to do things.
If you give more details about cats and fields i am happy to suggest the best way to do things to be able to scale in general and with GD.
Thanks,
Stiofan
Hi Stiofan
I feel like i am banging my head against the wall, i have absolutely no issue in breaking it down into Category
and Sub Categories but for the 10th time, this is only a partial fix. It does not address the biggest issue. If you have a specific field or filter only associated with one category we have you need to create a custom post type for each one right ?
We have 88 categories so this means creating a post type for each one ?
and if this is true, then you need to administer Custom Fields, Sorting, Tabs, General, Search, and Packages for each one ? If so as you can imagine this would be a massive overhead and not feasible.
Also your above response and the response from my review seems to suggest my suggestion of associating a custom field to specific categories is not technically possible. This is the first time you have ever said this. In fact you said the opposite to me, you said
“I’m not 100% against the idea but its not a feature that has been requested any time recently. I would need more convincing to make it a top priority.”
To summarise, i am happy to do anything we need to get this working but only if it makes sense on our side, and also once its future proofed. It may be ok to do this now with only a few custom fields, but in 6 months or a year if we have 50 fields specific to only one category this will not work.
Kind Regards
Scott
Hi Scott,
Do you have a skype account, i feel we might save a lot of time if we have a quick chat, or even just live text chat if you prefer?
Thanks,
Stiofan
Hi Scott,
I have added you on skype, it might be monday now before we catch up. Have a good weekend.
Thanks,
Stiofan
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