Sites Loading Severely Slow

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  • April 2, 2019 at 5:25 pm #477532

    Jeff Adams
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    I’m having problems with my websites that are using Geodirectory loading way too slow. ThingsToDoInNC.com is a test site using the newest GD. It only has a few listings which are very limited. The theme is just Elegant Themes. I have another site also with new GD plugins for a test called WhoCanIGet.com. It only has 3 listingsd and just has a generic GD theme.

    On the same VPS with JaguarPC (recommended by someone here) I have neofilm.us which is a very heavy site full of large images. It loads significantly better.

    I approached the hosting company and they appeared to be suggesting caching. But, the reason I got away from Godaddy for hosting was because they use caching and this was causing problems with GD. So, I don’t want to depend on caching. I think the new version is supposed to work better with caching but that shouldn’t be necessary for decent speed results on a new site.

    So, are we suppose to just be fine with this? Speed absolutely effects user experience perhaps more than anything at first. It doesn’t matter how good your content, marketing, etc… is if the site loads slow visitors will bounce. And, the rankings in Search Engines will drop.

    I was very excited about the new GD being more efficiently coded and as a result better/faster. At this point it does not appear to be the case at all.

    Is it still under beta? Will this improve (without caching)?

    April 2, 2019 at 5:28 pm #477537

    Jeff Adams
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    Some more screen shots of speed results

    April 2, 2019 at 5:29 pm #477542

    Jeff Adams
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    These are speed test for a large, image heavy site that hasn’t been optimized at all, and isn’t using GD plugins, on the same VPS

    April 2, 2019 at 5:38 pm #477549

    Alex Rollin
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    Hi Jeff,

    to answer your question “are we suppose to just be fine with this?” – I think you are doing the right thing in looking into options with your host and I would advise you the same thing. Do take a look at our performance page for a list of items you can look into.

    https://wpgeodirectory.com/docs-v2/faq/performance/

    Cache of course is not required but running live queries is usually more expensive.

    April 4, 2019 at 3:35 am #478095

    Jeff Adams
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    I’m using no plugins accept GD and merely a few, as simple as it gets test listings on a virtual private server. Is it my server? Does GD have a server they can suggest that will make their product shine? Because right now it’s not shinning at all on my VPS.

    I just did a sort of experiment. I ran 3 speed tests
    1. with just a wordress theme and no plugins scored in the green at 98
    2. then speed test on a wordpress installation with Divi theme and no plugins scored in the orange at 80
    3. then a speed test with with GD plugins and a divi theme and scored in the red at 48. Mobile is at a tragic 8.
    4. then I did a speed test with the GD plugins and wp super cache on the same site as 3 and I got an increase to 50. Mobile went to 9.

    The VPS seems fine with WP until I get the GD plugins installed. These speed ratings are horrible. Imagine how bad it will get with content. Please help.

    April 4, 2019 at 3:41 am #478099

    Jeff Adams
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    I just did another test. This time i used wordpress theme 2019, wp super caching and GD plugins only. Speed test went back down to what it was before caching with Divi at 49 desktop and 8 mobile.

    The site with GD V2 I’m talking about is WhoCanIGet.com and ThingsToDoInNC.com. Neither really has any content, nothing significant anyways. They’re just tests…

    VeganLinked.com is on V1 with actually a lot of content and it’s horribly slow. I’ll be upgrading it soon.

    April 4, 2019 at 4:38 pm #478303

    Paolo
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    Hi,

    I launched this tool to see how slow the page really is and it’s not so bad at all:

    https://www.dotcom-tools.com/website-speed-test.aspx#D12CF5D25884456297AC91811F6882CD

    In several US locations it loads under 1 sec.

    The biggest problem I see is that the gzip/deflate mod is not enabled on your server.

    By enabling compression of files, you’ll see major improvements.

    You need to ask this to your server support.

    Thanks

    April 5, 2019 at 5:08 am #478443

    Jeff Adams
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    Thanks for looking into it Paolo. I’m excited to try your suggestion. I think the google speed tool is important since google is so significant, do you think differently? Please share if you do. Thanks again!

    April 5, 2019 at 4:47 pm #478663

    Paolo
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    It’s just a tool.

    Google does not use it to rank websites, so no it is not that important.

    Between a website that loads in 900ms with a 50 score and one that loads in 3 secs with a 100 score, I’d chose the 1st and Google too.

    It’d mean that one is unoptimized, but running on a server that can handle it well, the other is very optimized, but the server that hosts it is underpowered.

    Thanks

    April 9, 2019 at 1:14 am #479359

    Jeff Adams
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    Ok, I enabled Gzip on these two test sites:

    http://www.whocaniget.com
    http://www.thingstodoinnc.com

    they’re loading faster but still very poorly.

    whocaniget.com is mobile 46 and desktop 77 with google speed test. This site barely has anything on it, the server is vps, wp super cache enabled, it’s wordpress theme 2019.

    thingstodoinnc.com is mobile 16 and desktop 58. this site is using supreme theme, wp super cache, vps server, barely anything on the site.

    also, cache didn’t appear to help at all when I tested speed before and after cache.

    I’m thinking these sites should load significantly faster when they are bare bone with only essential GD plugins and virtually no listings.

    All this makes me worry about my main site and the future design of these sites. Originally I had plans to showcase certain categories, listings, and events on the home page. But, now I’m trying to imagine a more minimalist way to achieve the fastest load time possible.

    Do you have any more suggestions? Thanks again!

    April 9, 2019 at 6:03 pm #479607

    Paolo
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    You can definitely optimize images. They are huge: https://whocaniget.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/0721181609-2048×1536.jpg

    Server TTFB (time to first byte) is also not the best. (In our test, your server responded in 0.75 seconds.)

    Other than that, optimizing your site for speed is not GeoDirectory support.

    This thread is resolved for what concerns us.

    Thanks

    April 10, 2019 at 6:12 pm #479890

    Jeff Adams
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    Thanks, I guess I just don’t understand where it is GD ideally would be responsible and where it’s not ideally GD… Since GD is all about a directory it seems the idea is people may be adding all kinds of images. It’s probably hard for most end users to change the size of images. Ideally it’s easy for them to list without having to figure out how to change image sizes. So, I assumed it is essential for people to be able to add images and then GD to create process that image by making it smaller for front end display. I think WP does this because I’ve noticed multiple versions of images. I’m afraid to make the image size much smaller because that may make it hard for most people to do anything. A lot of site, for example youtube, process media after it’s been uploaded. But, maybe that’s expecting too much from GD and even my server… I’m still learning, thanks for input!

    April 10, 2019 at 8:46 pm #479944

    Alex Rollin
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    https://wpgeodirectory.com/docs-v2/integrations/images/

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